Naomi Klein, author, acivist, and columnist for The Nation, tells The UpTake's Jacob Wheeler what she thinks of Obama's language of hope permeating the United Nations climate change conference in Copenhagen. In short: The action and funds it would take to make a real difference are not even on the table.

Klein does find hope, however, in the new alliances forming around the environment. Organizations previously focused on international trade and poverty are starting to work on climate change.

Interview by Jacob Wheeler. Produced by Chuck Olsen for The UpTake: http://theuptake.org
Distributed by Tubemogul.